"Jay_Hoff" (jayhoff)
05/20/2015 at 12:00 • Filed to: None
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"Jay_Hoff" (jayhoff)
05/20/2015 at 12:00 • Filed to: None | 2
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Since I cant post on the front page for some reason, Id thought Id share why the L67 motor is amazing.
Ed is the driver and mechanic of our 2000 Bonneville SSEi with INTENSE 9.5:1 compression ratio Race-ready Short-block, Blowzilla supercharger with Lee Performance intercooler, INTENSE Stage 3 Cylinder Heads, INTENSE Stage 4 blower cam, CompCams lifters, INTENSE lightweight pushrods, INTENSE 1.60:1 full roller rocker arms, INTENSE/TOG Big Dog Headers ATI SFI-approved damper, INTENSE transaxle with 3.69:1 final drive, INTENSE TCC-400 torque converter, INTENSE Second Gen LSD, INTENSE race front brake kit, and INTENSE Stage 3 PCM. This car recently ran a new best time of 10.711 @ 125.71 MPH with 27 psi of boost and is currently ranked #3 out of all 3800 FWD cars in North America. The car has set two national records so far: first L67-powered car to ever break the 8.000 second eighth mile barrier with 7.971 and 7.948 on May 22, 2002, and first L67-powered car to ever break the 12.500 second quarter mile barrier with 12.431 and 12.447 on the same date.
http://www.intense-racing.com/sponsor.shtml
Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
> Jay_Hoff
05/20/2015 at 12:02 |
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I approve.
LongbowMkII
> Jay_Hoff
05/20/2015 at 12:09 |
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The Bonneville was unfairly attacked in today’s AOTD.
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Jay_Hoff
> LongbowMkII
05/20/2015 at 12:09 |
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Agree, which is why I remembered this video, and gave it a share.
Milky
> Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/20/2015 at 12:10 |
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#CouldofdoneiteasierandprobablycheaperwithaGTO
crowmolly
> Jay_Hoff
05/20/2015 at 12:13 |
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People love to knock it, but it was good for its time and can be decent now with some work.
In 2015 240hp out of a 3.8L S/C is something to scoff at.
In 1997 240hp out of a 3.8L S/C was OK, and it was better at torque at 280 lb-ft. The ‘97 Mustang GT had 215 hp. The 300ZX was making 300hp and 283 lb-ft out of 3.0L with two turbos, which is obviously more than the L67 at the time but not great in today’s world.
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Jay_Hoff
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 12:16 |
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This was done a long time ago, and the car has since retired.
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Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 12:46 |
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Except that is totally different and not near as cool...
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Milky
> Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/20/2015 at 13:01 |
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First off: shit, didn’t mean to reply to you. Thats on me.
Second: I disagree, because you think a newer bonneville is “cool”.
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Milky
> Jay_Hoff
05/20/2015 at 13:02 |
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One could almost conclude from it being retired that it couldn't do tens reliably …. maybe not the best engine then.
Nobi
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 13:07 |
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I made the switch from an ‘01 GTP to an ‘04 GTO once my GP was knocking on the door of 200k. While I love the GTO, the Grand Prix was no slouch, could seat 5 people comfortably (GTO only holds 4), and got 30 mpg highway regularly with a full GM Performance parts cat back exhaust and ZZPerformance tune. The GTO is able to hit 20 mpg on the highway if I drive long enough with the cruise control on, and it has a tuned PCM, shorty headers, high-flow cats, and a Magnaflow cat-back. The trunk on the GP is cavernous compared to the golf bag size of the GTO. (Thanks for putting the gas tank back there, GM) If the 4T65E-HD was a bit more stout, and the built aftermarket transmissions weren’t so pricey, I’d have kept it as I only got $1500 for my trade in.
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Nobi
> crowmolly
05/20/2015 at 13:13 |
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Also, if you swap the S/C for a turbo, that engine WAKES UP.
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Milky
> Nobi
05/20/2015 at 13:22 |
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Bonneville/grand prix is obviously a better “car” …. but turning a FWD family sedan into an all out drag car doesnt make mush sense imo.
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Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 13:25 |
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It’s cool because it isn’t cool. It’s a FWD blown V6 running mid 10s. That’s a lot cooler than a RWD V8 super sedan. You expect the V8 to be quick, but not the ludicrously heavy FWD wannabe muscle car.
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Nobi
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 13:26 |
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Agreed, but that argument can be made for any car. To get the most out of a car at a dragstrip, you’re going to have to remove most of the things that make it a street car. Regardless of what you have, if you’re going to do it, do it all the way, I guess.
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Milky
> Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
05/20/2015 at 13:32 |
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Sleeper status for sure, esp. with those stock wheels.
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crowmolly
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 13:43 |
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Depending on the year, the INTENSE parts may have had something to do with that.
For $1000 you could probably be mid 13’s back in 2000 in an otherwise stock car. That wasn’t too bad.
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crowmolly
> Nobi
05/20/2015 at 13:44 |
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First gear in the GTP as you recall was a 2.93. Made for highway economy, not moving a sedan of the GP’s size out in a hurry.
I geared up in my old one and it was a huge difference.
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Jay_Hoff
> Nobi
05/20/2015 at 14:48 |
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That car had full interior, and a partial cage.
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Jay_Hoff
> Milky
05/20/2015 at 14:51 |
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Probably moved on to another platfrom.
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Nobi
> Jay_Hoff
05/20/2015 at 15:15 |
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I used to work with a guy that has a GS-R Integra with a full interior and partial cage. I teased him about all the money he threw at it until he showed me his dyno sheet. 700 hp. Then I saw him run at the dragstrip. He’s close to the 9’s. His best was a 10.3. Either way, that’s an impressive thing to do and still be streetable, but throw enough money at any car, doesn’t matter what wheels are driven, and you’ll hit 10’s eventually. Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
bryan40oop
> Jay_Hoff
05/20/2015 at 22:35 |
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where’s the amazing part?